STTI/KJW – HK MK23 NBB

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Manufacturer: STTI/KJW
Type: Gas Non Blow Back
Street Price: $70.00
SOLD! Hope I'm now over my "I wanna check out KJW guns" syndrome.


The STTI/KJW Mk23 and USP Tactical

The STTI/KJW Mk23 NBB is a copy of the TM MK23 NBB I already own. This is yet another curiosity in the quality and performance of a KJW gun compared to the usual Japanese mfg guns I usually buy.

First impressions… The quality is very "rough" compared to the TM. The plastic slide is made of Blaze Orange plastic, painted black… And there are NO trades at all on the gun. Trigger pull is even heavier then the TM and it feels like theres grains of sand in the action.

The silencer which is not a silencer at all but an inner barrel extender. You get some added fps when attached. See below for results. But not the ultra quiet shot as you would with the TM MK23.? The barrel extension is all plastic including the threads, so over time this may be an issue.? And as we all know, higher FPS doesn't equal better accuracy.


The STTI/KJW Mk23 Silencer Attached

But at $70.00 is it that good of a deal? Considering I bought a TM MK23 by itself from Dentrinity (They had a deal where you could buy the gun w/o silencer and LAM for $58.00 + Int'l Shipping),?I would have to?say no on the STTI/KJW.

This should be the last of my "I wonder if KJW is any good" comparisons.

Chrono Results (FPS)
Green Gas, Barrel Extender Attached
.20 BB's
Min: 420..43
Max: 473.43
Avg: 436.90

Tokyo Marui – Glock 26 Advance

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Manufacturer: Tokyo Marui (Japan)
Type: GBB


TM Glock 26 Advance

The Tokyo Marui G26 Advance is very similar to the Glock 33 Advance used in the Anime, Ghost in the Shell, Stand Alone Complex. The Glock 33 Advance should be a .40 cal instead of the G26 in 9mm though. In airsoft you would only need a slide marked Glock 33. It's basically a Glock 26 with an extended magazine and barrel and barrell shroud. It's a little larger then a Glock 17,18c for reference.

Out of the box it took Green Gas fine with no leaks and after about 10 mag fills it's still not leaking. The blowback with Green Gas is very hard. So hard I'm afraid any day now the plastic slide will break.


TM Glock 26 Advance and G&P M3 Replica

Update 11/2007

Still functions as new using Green Gas no problem. It’s over 3 years old now.

Chrono Results (FPS)
GBB
.20 BB's
Min: 320.48
Max: 342.23
Avg: 333.94

Western Arms – S.C.W. Para-Ordnance Doberman .45 Limited

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Manufacturer: Western Arms (Japan)
Type: GBB
Date Acquired: 03/2004


Western Arms – S.C.W. Para-Ordnance Doberman .45 Limited

My 2nd WA!!! (Although I purchased this from WA before the first WA I received shipping direct from Japan took a while..). This is the Western Arms – S.C.W. Para-Ordnance Doberman .45 Limited, yet another WA 1911 modification.

This gun includes the following:

  • Barrel Shroud/Meat Tenderizer
  • About 1 inch longer then standard Inner Barrel
  • 30 Round Silver High Cap Magazine
  • 20mm Lower Rail
  • Slide and Shroud Compensation Cuts
  • Silver outer barrel
  • Competition Style Oversized Ambidextrous Safety
  • Competition Style Oversized Slide Stop
  • Competition Style Magwell
  • Lanyard Nub


Western Arms – S.C.W. Para-Ordnance Doberman .45 Limited

Quality of this replica is top notch. It weighs a little over 3lbs so nice and heavy Wink There's still a little magwell wobble, but not near the wobble the Para Prokiller has.

I also bought an extra mag, which it was told to me uses the standard 30 round WA high cap mag, but the spare doesn't work with this specific gun. It works fine in my Prokiller, but it keeps the slide from returning properly on the Doby.

Performance of this gun , out of the box is really good. It slide kick is hard and crisp. At this point I haven't messed with the hopup yet , so the accuracy needs to be tuned a bit. With Green Gas, fps results as follows:

Chrono Results (FPS)
Green Gas
.20 BB's
Min: 325.26
Max: 340.13
Avg: 331.21

Not planning on doing anything else on this gun, More info to be posted later as I play with it more.


Western Arms – Prokiller Para-Ordnance 14-45 Combat

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Manufacturer: Western Arms (Japan)
Type: GBB
Date Acquired: 03/2004


Western Arms – Prokiller Para Ordnance 14-45 Combat

Well… suprisingly with the amount of airsoft I own, this is my first Western Arms gun. I must say for quality, weight, appearance and performance, it lives up to what all WA owners say. These guns are top rate replicas and top rate performers,

This specific gun is the Prokiller Para-Ordnance 14-45 Combat which includes the following:

  • Barrel Shroud/Suppressor
  • 8 inch Inner Barrel
  • 46 Round High Cap Magazine

NOTE!!! Even though this gun is called a Prokiller and it ships with the High Cap mag, it is NOT select fire. This replica is semi auto ONLY (Which I found out after purchase, but that disappointment was countered by it stock fps performance. See Below)


Western Arms – Prokiller Para Ordnance 14-45 Combat – Regular Para-Ordnance Magazine

Quality of this replica is top notch. Other then the plastic slide it looks and weighs almost the same as it's unloaded, real steel counter part. The only gripe I do have is a little magazine wobble, meaning there's a little space in the magwell.

Performance of this gun , out of the box, is really good. This is my first WA 1911 type of gun and I had forgotten 1911's were Single Action, but yet another area where WA made a great reproduction. With Green Gas, fps results as follows:

Chrono Results (FPS)
GBB
.20 BB's
Min: 382.65
Max: 410.21
Avg: 393.54

I figure the much longer inner barrel is giving the added power, but it is more then I expected. I have a new Hogue grip on order and so far that is the only upgrade I'm planning on this gun.


KSC – HK MK23 Heavyweight – Project Gun

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Manufacturer: KSC (Japan)
Type: GBB

Project Update 03-22-04


KSC – HK MK23 Heavyweight – Project Gun – Tamiya Acrylic Paint

Hooray! Metal Slide is now painted and works great!

Well I ended up stripping the Powder Coating and wet painting the slide with Tamiya Acrylic. The powder coating was just too thick to be used on a slide and barrel. But after abotu 3 coats of wet paint, it came out great and I need to take Guinness' advise on taking pics Wink . I'll post better pics later. The metal slide functions as it should. Decreased my ROF about half so may need to get an upgraded valve.

Project Update 03-15-04


KSC – HK MK23 Heavyweight – Project Gun – Powder Coated Slide

The Powder Coating Experiment…

Luckily my parent's own a powder coating factory, so I put my bare aluminum slide on the line today after carefully masking the slide grooves.

Why Powder Coat? Outside of the fact for me it's free, powder coating is a very durable way to coat metal (So durable it's a biyatch to sand!). Very scratch and ding resistant. The process involves the powder paint and a 400degree oven, so anything that will melt needs to be stripped.

My biggest concern with the slide was that powder coating is alot thicker then regular liquid paint, so I was concerned about all the TM. The picture doesn't show it well (I'm going to use Guinness' picture taking techniques during the day sometime) but the TM came out fine. The biggest prob was due to the base metal used on the Zeke slide. I was a very pourus aluminum casting adn outgassed during hte process, which reulted in the texture effect on the slide. I dunno now, I kinda like it Razz But I'll probably strip the slide and barrel tommorow adn try some other paintng technique next.

Stay Tuned…

Project Update 03-12-04


KSC – HK MK23 Heavyweight – Project Gun – 2 Tone ROFL Laughing

I scored a Zeke Metal Slide and Barrel for $50.00. The only problem with it was the finish was wearing off. Above are pics of my initial cleaning for the parts. I will probably be sand blasting and either powder coating (the best powder coating shop – Gemtech Wink ) or painting the slide and barrel.. Now I just gotta make up my mind what to paint it… Marpat??? Razz

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KSC – HK MK23 Heavyweight – Project Gun

I came across an ad on AirsoftPlayers.com for a KSC MK23 Heavyweight gun in need of repair for $75.00, so I just couldn't resist taking a look at it for the price and seeing how far I could get fixing it.


KSC – HK MK23 Heavyweight – Project Gun

When I recieved the gun it looked as if it had been submerged in water or something since there was rust on all the metal parts. Luckily a little dilluted pholic acid and some Gun Bluing I have for my Real Steel guns took care of that. The gun fired, but the trigger stuck and you were lucky to get the hammer to lock and slide to return back to position. To top all that the magazine did not release or sit properly in the gun.


Comparison: Tokyo Marui MK23 NBB (top) KSC – HK MK23 Heavyweight – Project Gun (bottom)

I lucked out and purchased 2 parts that fixed the guns operations:

  • Shooters Design 150% Recoil Spring Set For KSC Socom Mk23
  • KSC MK23 Magazine

And everything works great now!!! I don't think i even needed the spring set but it really gives the gun a nice crisp return on the slide.

With the success of the base guns fixes, I've added the following:

  • Wolf Industries M97 LAM Unit (review here)
  • JUST Delta Force Silencer ( 30mm x 110mm )
  • First Factory MK23 Silencer Adapter (Converts the 16mm Clockwise adapter to a 14mm Clockwise Adapter)

So far everythigns great on the gun. It's really heavy, loud report, crisp action and to top all that it shoots well too!

KSC Assembly Guide

KSC MK23 Parts List

Tokyo Marui – Desert Eagle .50 Hard Kick

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Manufacturer: Tokyo Marui (Japan)
Type: Gas Blow Back


w00t! Desert Eagle!!!

Just recieved thie Tokyo Marui, Desert Eagle .50 Hardkick from Dentrinity. The box had a huge yellow sticker on it saying "ONLY USE 134a GAS". And there was no dissapointment! Even with 134s Gas in it, this is everything TM advertised as being a very Hardkick gun. But it wasn't long before Green Gas was used and the recoil and?report?are scary nice.

As always a very high quality replica with a ver solid and powerful action. A bit too big to lug around on your thigh though, so mine has stayed off the field.


Desert Eagle!!! other side


Desert Eagle!!! Slide Locked


Desert Eagle!!! And for those of us who owned previous verions of the TM DE. The tradmarks are spelled correctly this time.

Poseidon – Seburo – CX Compact Xploder – Maruzen PPK/S New Type

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Manufacturer: Maruzen (Japan)
Manufacturer: Poseidon (Japan)
Type: Gas Blow Back + Garage Kit

Well it had to happen… I will now attempt to build the Seburo – CX Compact Xploder, a line of weapons dreamed up by Masamune Shirow, the author of Ghost in the Shell and many other wonderful Anime and Manga.


Here's what the finished product looks like… I hope mine looks this way when I'm done.


Maruzen Walther PPK/S is the Base Gun


Maruzen Walther PPK/S (Bottom) Size Comparison to a Jericho and HK USP

[[[Update]]]

You wanna quick way to f-up a perfectly good Walther PPK or Resin Model Kit? Just send them my way… One thing I found out a bit too late (After Bonding the Seburo Slide to the Walther, is that the PPK New Type is different in dimensions then the original Maruzen PPK/s this resin kit was built around. Needless to say everythings a mess right now, but I'm a working on fixing it all.

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OK… after hours and hours of putty-ing and sanding and airbrushing flat black and gun metal…


The Seburo next to its' owner

I still need to work on the mag release and sanding the slide down a little more, but it shoots as a stock PPK would. Slide blows back. May need to get a harder recoil spring.


Seburo CX

 

 

Tokyo Marui – HK MK-23 Fixed Slide Gas Gun Set

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Manufacturer: Tokyo Marui (Japan)
Type: Gas Fixed Slide
Date Acquired: 11/2002 (see bleow)


MK-23 Packaging

Well, it took alot of patience, but the MK-23 I ordered back in August finally arrived. (See my Retailer Review of Tokyo Hobby for more info on the delayed shipment)

First impressions: Great packaging! It can in a carry case with foam cutouts for the MK-23, magazine and silencer.


Case Closed


Case Open

The MK-23 is a large framed handgun and Marui did a wonderful job in creating this airsoft version. The gun is very solid and heavy and would be just shy of a real steel full framed HK USP unloaded.


Outta the box


Silencer Attached

The outer parts are mostly ABS, but the internals are all metal. Since this is a Fixed Slide, Non Blowback airsoft gas gun, the slide can be engaged, btu it serves no purpose. The silencer and wagazine are metal and YES the silencer has foam inserts and does silence (Video to ba added later)

You also get the LAM (Light/Laser Attachment Module) which sports a flashlight and LED laser. I will be exeprimenting on replacing the internals of the LAM with a Surefire Tactical Flashlight and Laser. Will keep you posted.

Firing the gun is FUN! Since there are no valve upgrades yet, I am shooting hte weaker HFC134a gas, but the hop up unit makes up for the lack of power. My KSC Glocks are more powerful since I was able to upgrade the valves to accept Green Gas, and hopefully this will be an upgrade option for the MK-23 soon.


Comparison with TM MK-23 Spring


Comparison with TM Desert Eagle Electric

More to be added/edited later!!!

w00t! I scored a 2nd TM MK-23 from Dentrinity for $58.00!!! This one came w/o LAM and Silencer, but I have some upgrades planned for this baby Very Happy

So far I added:

  • First Factory 20mm Under Mount Base
  • KM TN Giga Valve for Marui MK23 Fixed Slide
  • G&P Tactical Light, Single Cell
  • ICS Flash Light Mount
  • ICS Laser
  • ICS Laser Mount


This is my version of the "Poor Mans" LAM unit. The nice part is this LAM is modular and will work on almost any of my rigs.


My 2 TM, HK MK23's side by side.

Chrono results (FPS)
Green Gas
.20 BB's
Min: 338.22
Max: 350.93
Avg: 345.79

KJW – HK USP Tactical

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Manufacturer: KJW – Kuan Ju Works
Type: Gas Blow Back
Street Price: $80.00
SOLD

Well the price was hard to beat for a Gas Blowback Pistol that shoots all upgraded gases so I had to check out one of these guns for myself.

First impressions… well the quality is very "rough" compared to Japanese airsoft guns. The plastic slide doesn't match the frame color and things just don't seem as refined, but loading it up with green gas and firing was another story. This gun is loud! The slide action is crisp if not a bit scary. This version came with a threaded barell which will accept a 14mm counter clockwise silencer.

When pulling the trigger, it feels like theres sand or grit in the trigger mechanism. Field stripping this gun is no fun, due to some poorly aligned tolerances.

But it did answer my question on the build and quality of KJWs. Bottom line save a litel more money for quality. I will keep buying Japanese guns though.

I actually breathed a sigh of relief when I sold this thing.

Chrono Results (FPS)
Green Gas
.20 BB's
Min: 276.27
Max: 286.88
Avg: 282.94

I found out 1 thing from the chrono results which I was amazed was kind of low in relation to the loud bang when fired. Most gas seems to be used to cycle the slide rather then propel the BB. Even with a silencer installed, the sound is not significantly decreased as with other GBB pistols using the same silencer.

Hudson – Jericho

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Manufacturer: Hudson Industry (Japan)
Type: Gas Blow Back
Date Acquired: 03/2003

Well I love the Anime, Cowboy Bebop (Check in other sections of this site for more info) and I just scored the Jericho (Baby Desert Eagle) used by one of the Cowboy Bebop characters Spike Spiegel.

First impressions… Very beautiful model of a gun!!! It's an exact copy of the real steel version down to all the IMI markings. It's a Gas Blowback gun with Plastic slide and metal frame. How does it shoot??? Did I say it was a beautiful model of a gun???

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It's shoots?Terrible! the 2 mags I have leaked on 134a Gas new! ? When it did fire bb's arc'd left and right.

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Con's (I really have no Pro's)

  • Can?ONLY use HFC134a
  • Slide is built of Cold Cast Resin.? Very thick and brittle
  • No Metal Slides were ever produced. (Typical of Hudson Guns)
  • No After Market Upgrades (Typical of Hudson Guns)
  • No Replacement Parts (Typical of Hudson Guns)